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I’m Gonna Need Some’a Y’All to Shut Up

Opponents of same-sex marriage have some arguments they like to fall back on a lot. Never mind that most of them fall into wet, sloppy shreds if you apply even the smallest amount of critical thinking.

marriage-equality-symbolThere’s the famous “slippery slope” theory that tells us gay marriage will lead to legalized pedophilia and bestiality and incestuous marriage between first-order relatives. Of course, because same-sex relationships and marriage are between consenting adults, there is no correlation to pedophilia and bestiality. And also, on the topic of animals, same-sex intimacy is actually pretty common in various species, and rarely do they fuck up fellow members of their species for indulging in such acts. As for legalized incest or incestuous marriage, it also isn’t anywhere near the same thing, as some kind of coercion or control is often in play, making the whole consent thing questionable from the get-go. Also, you’ll be hard-pressed to find any cultures through the ages that smile when incest takes place. It is typically taboo.

Speaking of history, there’s the argument that historically, there is no precedent for same-sex marriage. Hell, I used that one myself in younger years, even though I knew damned well that in various cultures, ancient Greece being the most well-known, there is much history of homosexual liaisons and full-fledged open relationships being not just condoned but often encouraged. Also, I’ve become aware of the fact recently that in the early Christian church, there are documented cases of same-sex marriage ceremonies taking place.

But, when all else fails, there’s the trump card, right? Same-sex marriage shouldn’t exist because marriage exists for the purpose of raising kids.

Now, this is the point where many people, even those who aren’t sure about letting men marry men and women marry women, might point out that many people get married with no intention of having children and many infertile people get married, and same-sex opponents have no problem with that.

That, of course, is because the people spouting that theory of marriage-is-all-about-spawning will tell you that people can change their minds about having kids and infertile people sometimes (though with vanishingly slim odds and a frequency that comes close to “never”) do end up conceiving.

But you know what, even though I think the argument of marriage being only about raising biological kids is stupid, I’m prepared to let the same-sex marriage opponents have it…and back them up on their refusal to allow same-sex marriage…if they make some fundamental(ist) and necessary changes to marriage laws nationwide.

Here’s what has to happen:

  • If you are married but have no children, you cannot get the tax benefits for being married.
  • If you are married but have no children, and your spouse dies without a will in place, the inheritance will go to blood relatives. If none exist, the state gets it all.
  • If you are married but have no children, you will have to go through a much more complex and difficult process to adopt than those with children do, because marriage is for the purpose of actually having kids and you haven’t proven yourself by doing that yet.
  • If you are married but have no children, you must defer to blood relatives of your spouse on any matters like surgical consent, end-of-life decisions and other major health and legal matters.
  • Once you no longer have any minor-aged children, you lose all the benefits of marriage as noted above.
  • Adopted children don’t count, as marriage is for the purpose of spawning families, not acquiring them.

So, once those changes are in place, you same-sex marriage opponents have my backing. Because then, you’ll finally be practicing what you preach about what marriage really is about.

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3 Responses to “I’m Gonna Need Some’a Y’All to Shut Up”


  1. March 28, 2013 at 10:03 am

    In the interests of fairness and completeness, an addendum to my post above…

    I mentioned having recently read about a history of same-sex marriages in the early Christian church. Now, this should not be interpreted as an assertion that the practice was common; rather, I wanted to convey that this issue isn’t new and that the practice of joining two people of the same gender isn’t simply a modern concept. One of my online buddies asked for links about early Christian same-sex marriage out of curiosity, and I’ll include them here. There is debate about this, as you will see. Also, I provide a Wikipedia entry with an overview of the issue, touching on other faiths and traditions in addition to Christianity in this regard:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_same-sex_unions

    http://anthropologist.livejournal.com/1314574.html

    http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=674716

    http://www.gaychristian101.com/Gay-Marriage.html

    http://www.iheartchaos.com/post/22806986381/the-time-when-same-sex-marriage-was-a-christian-rite

    The take-home for me isn’t that some early Christians embraced same-sex unions because, clearly, they were in the minority. But same-sex marriage and/or life partnering is nothing new. At all. Millennia of that activity, and humanity hasn’t been wiped from the face of the Earth. Whether you want to count it a sin or not, the fact is that marriage isn’t just about religion. It’s a civil thing, and I don’t think religions should define it (nor should churches that oppose it be forced to perform such ceremonies…I believe in freedom of religion as well as marriage equality).

  2. May 2, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    Pretty great post. I just stumbled upon your blog and wanted to say that I’ve really loved browsing your blog posts. In any case I will be subscribing on your rss feed and I hope you write once more soon!

  3. May 3, 2013 at 12:42 am

    Thanks, and appreciate your visits (past and to come). Posts can be a bit sporadic around this blog, I must admit


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